Episode 30

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18th Jun 2026

Reducing hunger in a SNAP (with Chris Bernard)

The Ellens* visit with Chris Bernard, CEO of HungerFree Oklahoma, a nonprofit policy and advocacy thinktank that focuses on food insecurity. The conversation focuses on changes to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) that are making it harder to ensure everyone has enough food to eat.

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Between Two Ellens*
Between Two Ellens* is a podcast hosted by Oklahoma state representatives Ellyn Hefner and Ellen Pogemiller. Together, they dive into pressing state issues through both a legislative and community lens. Each episode features conversations with experts, advocates, and Oklahoma legislators to highlight diverse perspectives and practical solutions shaping Oklahoma’s future.