Stand under this bridge with me (with Tim Gatz)
It's Transportation Day at the State Capitol, and The Ellens* are joined by Oklahoma Secretary of Transportation, Tim Gatz, to discuss roads, bridges, trains, and automobiles.
About the Podcast
Between Two Ellens*
Between Two Ellens* is a podcast hosted by Oklahoma state representatives Ellyn Hefner and Ellen Pogemiller. Together, they dive into pressing state issues through both a legislative and community lens. Each episode features conversations with experts, advocates, and Oklahoma legislators to highlight diverse perspectives and practical solutions shaping Oklahoma’s future.